beta and gamma waves dominant when doing no task with eyes open

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no use for a name
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beta and gamma waves dominant when doing no task with eyes open

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Hi MM community!

How can I interpret when beta and gamma waves are dominant compared to the other remaining waves? My brainwaves are mostly like this when I leave my eyes open just starring on the graphs while using MM or looking on the wall trying not to move my eyes or blink.

Is this a sign for processing visual stimuli? Are your "resting state" graphs similar to mine? I see always just people sharing their graphs with eyes closed or meditating... so I would appreciate when you could share your experience!

At the end of the 13minutes "session" I closed my eyes and gamma went down, alpha went up (I know this happens when eyes are beeing closed, just for explanation).

I am especially interested in the meaning of the gamma waves.

Any ideas? Thank you!
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Re: beta and gamma waves dominant when doing no task with eyes open

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wow, I has been doing meditation with anapanasati technique and I didn´t understand why beta and gamma goes higher. I think it was because when I'm doing this meditation I open my eyes a little bit. What do you think?

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Re: beta and gamma waves dominant when doing no task with eyes open

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What is your graph like with eyes closed,
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@ armidamc my graphs were recorded when not meditating (with just open eyes). I unfortunately did not get a response from other people using muse what their "resting state" (just open eyes without meditating) looks like. How are your graphs when you don't meditate but just leave the eyes open?
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Re: beta and gamma waves dominant when doing no task with eyes open

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no use for a name wrote: Wed May 18, 2022 4:59 am @ armidamc my graphs were recorded when not meditating (with just open eyes). I unfortunately did not get a response from other people using muse what their "resting state" (just open eyes without meditating) looks like. How are your graphs when you don't meditate but just leave the eyes open?
In my review of neuroscientific research and how to get valid EEG readings, they always recommend doing a baseline reading for at least 5m before the meditation or activity you want to gather data for, so you have something to compare it against. In the guidelines I've found, they recommend sitting comfortably or lying down with eyes closed to get those baseline readings. So there may be something about eyes open that affects true readings. I think because it activates parts of the brain designed to process the visual data and things can pull your attention. During baseline readings, don't meditate, just let yourself be quiet, eyes closed.

Then take readings of your actual meditation session or activity. If you really want to get into it, you can take a third recording of the 5 minutes immediately following the meditation to see if you maintain the altered state or see any other variations from the original baseline. Over time this can give a good indicator of entrainment and actually training your brain toward new resting states.

For me, all my resting, eyes closed, baseline readings are dominant delta, alpha-theta-beta in the middle, low gamma. However I am apparently an anomaly and am a trained professional clairvoyant with awakened and extremely active kundalini shakti and I'm in clairvoyant altered states most of my day to day. So while high gamma or high delta during regular waking states are considered rare or pathology by medical science, neuroscientists are now seeing that both (as well as theta) are correlated with altered consciousness. Your physical brain is 3D but your mind is 6D and you have other dimensions of being that have consciousness as well. When you move into those higher frequencies and dimensions during breathwork or meditation, it will lower your brain's more active functions and frequencies, showing a reduction in alpha and beta. You can have high alpha during altered states, but beta is usually what you want to minimize as that can be tied to stress and overactive mental mind. Again these are all general sweeping statements and everyone is unique. I suggest getting regular baseline readings and tracking your brainwaves over time to see how you compare against yourself as you deepen your various practices.

And I would suggest doing baseline readings (and all EEG readings) eyes closed. You're not actively meditating. You're just being. I think it's more consistent than ensuring every time you have your eyes open, no outside stimuli could be altering your brain activity. I notice my delta always drops significantly and alpha and beta increase when I open my eyes to navigate to stop my recording, as you can see on the attached graph.

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Here's another morning baseline an hour after waking, not meditating or doing anything except sitting silently eyes closed.

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If anyone wants more information on the meaning of different brainwave states in regards to meditation from one of the neuroscientists that invented EEG and who has extensively studied yogis and altered states and is one of the few in the scientific community who understands "waking delta" (rather than treating it as a pathology), definitely check the link out below:

https://www.biocybernaut.com/the-art-of ... ain-waves/



Hope that helps!
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Actually I need to find a better second one to show you. The second image above is only for the length of about a minute. Not long enough to establish a fair or accurate baseline. But you get the idea!
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Re: beta and gamma waves dominant when doing no task with eyes open

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I didn't want to start a new thread for just this question, unless it's necessary.

For an hour, eyes open and actively working/in a meeting with people, this is what my brain waves looked like.

Eyes closed beta drops significantly below everything else, delta and theta being dominantly higher.

What does this mean? I'm not sure how to ask that. I watched a video Aaron Abke made about SQ and brain waves, I'm just not totally sure how to make sense of the data i collected today.

Can anyone help?
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